Well I was looking on the Vans website and found these...which I thought were pretty plain for being the only (were they the only?) non-leather shoes they had. I'm wearing out my Chucks (which I keep replacing) and I want a pretty pair of skate shoes (even though I don't skate...but that's beside the point). I have no idea which shoes use suede/leather/etc. and which don't. Do you know any skate brands that don't? Even individual shoes? I don't care what brand, really, just not knockoff brands or something. Thanks to anyone who could help me out here.