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    Wink Being Vegan *is* Being Green

    Saw this at the paint store. I didn't check the ingredients.


    http://www.sherwin-williams.com/do_i.../SW6738_vegan/

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    I'm pretty sure one can't check the ingredients of paint, or at least that the activity is futile:

    "Dear Sherwin Williams CSR, Please tell me the ingredients of SW6738 paint."

    "Dear Sir or Madame, we have no legal obligation to do so (other than to release our MSDS, typically done through animal testing), as it is considered a trade secret. Have a nice day."

    [not real quotes]
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    It is interesting, however, that we have a new, additional, working definition of the word "vegan". It is a color.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The.Protist View Post
    Saw this at the paint store. I didn't check the ingredients.


    http://www.sherwin-williams.com/do_i.../SW6738_vegan/
    weird. It's a nice green anyway.
    It is better to light a candle than to curse the darkness.

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    We are in the process of adding new templates to the member websites over at Artspan.com where I work, and my coworker/friend named one Vegan for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mahk View Post
    I'm pretty sure one can't check the ingredients of paint, or at least that the activity is futile:
    Not any more than asking about ingredients on anything else. How do you think sites like Barnivore work? They will never tell you the exact recipe, but neither does the ingredients on the back of a can of soda. At the bare minimum they could tell you if anything is sourced from animals, as far as they know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The.Protist View Post
    Not any more than asking about ingredients on anything else.
    Yes, I personally consider it futile for a great many things beyond food and cosmetics, not just paint.
    How do you think sites like Barnivore work?
    Me, personally? "Poorly."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mahk View Post
    Me, personally? "Poorly."
    Just curious - why do you say that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mahk View Post
    Yes, I personally consider it futile for a great many things beyond food and cosmetics, not just paint.
    So how do you currently avoid consuming animal products in the vast spectrum beyond cosmetics and food? How would you propose others do so now or ever?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lentil View Post
    Just curious - why do you say that?
    Here's the short answer.

    I was burned by trusting such sites and it has left a sour taste in my mouth ever since. I continued to (effectively) kill and abuse sheep the first year I went vegan because of my stupid and naive acceptance that Grape Nuts cereal, promoted to me, by others on the web, as being one of the few forms of vegan vitamin B12 food out there, was indeed vegan. It isn't. It contains cholecalciferol (Vitamin D3) made from lanolin. which I came to discover through my own private research. It's the biggest mistake I've ever made as a vegan, and I feel just terrible for those sheep I hurt, but I learned my lesson not to trust "word of mouth" rumors ever again.

    Hey, I'm not condemning people who work differently than I do, I'm just explaining how I am.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mahk View Post
    It's the biggest mistake I've ever made as a vegan, and I feel just terrible for those sheep I hurt, but I learned my lesson not to trust "word of mouth" rumors ever again.
    That's really the biggest mistake you've ever made as a vegan? You never accidentally ate something with chicken broth or fish sauce? Anyway, I don't see any reason why you should feel bad for an honest mistake that you've since rectified.

    I think sites like that can be useful - Barnivore tends to include an excerpt of the company's response, and a date. I would trust that more than "word of mouth" - it just saves a little time over writing to the company yourself. If a listing is really old, you might want to write again and update it.

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    I've never heard of Barnivore. Seems like a good resource overall.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The.Protist View Post
    So how do you currently avoid consuming animal products in the vast spectrum beyond cosmetics and food?
    For the most part, I don't. I consider it a nearly impossible
    / gargantuan task living in our western world with all its intricacies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lentil View Post
    That's really the biggest mistake you've ever made as a vegan?
    Yes.
    You never accidentally ate something with chicken broth or fish sauce?
    No, not that I'm aware of. If I have eaten any animal goods while vegan it was either because I was lied to or there was an inaccuracy on the food label or food server I consulted. (or I misread or misheard them)

    I had a couple of very minor mishaps/questionable situations I wont bother to elaborate on unless you deem it important and I ignore cross contamination issues since I fail to see how worrying about it helps animals, the pretty much only reason why I *am* a vegan ["Health"?, "Environment"? Feh. I say!]
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