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Dandelion
07-26-2006, 11:15 AM
How do you contain water? Water, it's so krazie. You can't just pick it up and go. You gotta put it into a container often storing it for some time before you pour it down your tofu hole. Well, what kindsa water bottles do yall use? Any recommendations for the non-plastic variety?
Some bottles i've been peepin include:
Sigg (http://www.sigg.ch/)
Klean Kanteen (http://www.kleankanteen.com/)

quagga
07-26-2006, 11:23 AM
I have a Nalgene bottle that is easily 25 years old. I've never managed to lose it, so I've never managed to replace it, either. On long hikes I use a daypack with a water bladder in it. It's made out of plastic, but the value to me in keeping adequately hydrated is worth the risk. Mr Q has gotten attacks of kidney stones from failing to be adequately hydrated, so it's kind of critical.

Dandelion
07-26-2006, 11:27 AM
Links:
Nalgene (http://www.nalgene-outdoor.com/) and i see they also have packs (http://www.nalgene-outdoor.com/store/category.asp?category=2006+Hydration). Is this kinda what you meant by "daypack"?

quagga
07-26-2006, 11:34 AM
I have a Camelbak Hawg. (http://www.campmor.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?memberId=12500226&productId=61419)

It really helped me maintain hydration levels on long hikes b/c it lets me drink without stopping and unpacking my pack. Also, I can put ice in it, so I have cool water even at the end of the day.

stegan
07-26-2006, 11:37 AM
I have a relatively new old-school Nalgene that I've used recently on several long drives. It's a bit clunky to use while driving, but I like the size and capacity.

bluedawg
07-26-2006, 11:46 AM
Dandy, thanks to your post in the other bottled water thread, i have a brand new adoration for sigg bottles. :want want want:

also, bwah! to "tofu hole." until i buy a sigg bottle ;) i will be continuing to use my brita sport bottle, which has a little mini-brita-filter inside.

Dandelion
07-26-2006, 11:52 AM
i will be continuing to use my brita sport bottle, which has a little mini-brita-filter inside.


is this the one?
brita sport bottle (http://www.brita.com.au/britaproducts/filtersportbottle)
(i'm being ultra-thorough & silly today)

mamaquilla
07-26-2006, 11:58 AM
oh thats such a great idea, filter in a bottle! I met a woman that had a water bottle with a real fancy filter for hiking. You took it along and put in lake or creek water and it gets all the nast giardia nad such out. Darn if I cant remember the name of it. So in other words...safe water almost anywhere :D

oh here is one - http://www.backcountry.com/store/EXT0051/Katadyn-Micro-Microfilter-Water-Bottle.html?PID=1692154&AID=10281785

lolamako
07-26-2006, 12:05 PM
Please read this about nalgene:

http://www.rmad.org/nalgene.html


The Blood on Nalgene Water Bottles
The Nalge Nunc Corporation, makers of the popular Nalgene water bottles, produces and distributes devices used in animal research. See this website for more details.

Nalge dropped this device from its catalog shortly after the boycott began. RMAD has been unable to confirm, however, that the company in fact no longer sells it.

These devices are not part of Nagle Nunc's core business; they could easily stop selling these devices, with little effect on their bottom line. Nalge was first exposed by RMAD in 1996 for selling rabbit-restrainer devices and continues to be an unabashed advocate for animal research.

Our program aims to publicize Nalge's position and to identify and recommend water bottles manufactured by more compassionate companies.

The following specious text is from Nalge's Web site:
"Nalge Nunc International realizes that animal research is essential to medical research. There is no laboratory procedure or computer simulation that can reproduce the complex systems of a living organism. There is nothing short of controlled animal research that can prove the safety and efficacy of a drug or surgical procedure. Without animal research, there would be no polio vaccine, no heart by-pass surgery, no chemotherapy and no insulin. Without animal research, we will never be able to cure AIDS, multiple sclerosis or Alzheimer's."

Nalge Nunc's statement is misleading. Among its claims - polio was cured through animal research. The corporation seems to ignore the fact that the 1954 Nobel Prize was awarded to the scientific team that finally left behind the decades of failed animal research and found the breakthrough for the cure by growing the polio virus in human cell cultures.

Nalgene also shields itself behind the guidelines of the federal Animal Welfare Act when, in actuality, 90% of the animals used in research do not fall under its protection. As noted by the Physicians Committee for Responsible Medicine (PCRM), "Even for animals to whom the Animal Welfare Act applies... federal regulations do not prevent any experimental procedure, regardless of how painful it may be. Animals may be burned, maimed, and killed without anesthesia. While the Animal Welfare Act encourages the use of pain killers, experimenters can omit their use if they so choose."

Few would argue for harming animals in research. People might only argue that the research is "necessary." Again from PCRM, "Virtually every institution funding animal experiments claims that it uses animals only when necessary. Yet, countless examples have shown that animal experiments done in these same institutions are often of questionable scientific merit. For example, the March of Dimes funded an experiment which involved killing and comparing the brains of normal kittens who had one eye sewn shut for at least a year, and cats who were reared in complete darkness. By the March of Dimes' own admission, no clinically relevant advances came from this study, yet March of Dimes' spokespersons continue to claim its researchers use animals only when necessary."

For the truth on animal research issues, please visit the websites of The Physicians Committee For Responsible Medicine and The National Anti-Vivisection Society.

Action:
Boycott Nalgene Water Bottles and ask your friends, family, and colleagues to do the same!

Plaster a "This is my last Nalgene bottle" sticker on your Nalgene bottle! Available at the RMAD Store!


Please continue calling and writing Nalge. Tell them you will buy their water bottles again when they stop selling devices used in animal experiments. Send us a copy of any corporate responses.
Please write to:
Mr. Craig Jack, President
Nalge Nunc International
75 Panorama Creek Drive
Rochester, NY 14625
716-586-8800 (phone)
716-264-3709 (fax)

Tell him that you are boycotting Nalgene until Nalge Nunc stops selling all animal testing devices. Tell him that you are spreading the word. If you've been a Nalgene user, tell him that you hope that the boycott can end soon so you can buy their products again. And tell him that once the boycott is over, you'll be sure to let others know.
Thank you!

LazyGirl
07-26-2006, 12:07 PM
I usually carry my purple, stainless steel, Hello Kitty thermos (http://www.flickr.com/photos/drv1913/98723835/). I also have a plain one for those days when I like to pretend that I am a grown up. :) I like them because they keep my water nice and cold all day long, even if I leave them in a hot car. They fit in the holder on my bike, too.

bluedawg
07-26-2006, 12:15 PM
is this the one?
brita sport bottle (http://www.brita.com.au/britaproducts/filtersportbottle)
(i'm being ultra-thorough & silly today)
yes, that's the one! sorry, i'm foolishly trying to do a million things at once and i didn't grab the link myself. you da bess.

quagga
07-26-2006, 01:01 PM
Please read this about nalgene:

http://www.rmad.org/nalgene.html

Thanks, Lolamako. I know the issues about Nalgene the company. I need to do this:


Plaster a "This is my last Nalgene bottle" sticker on your Nalgene bottle! Available at the RMAD Store!

Vegtink
07-26-2006, 02:24 PM
Ahh yes I am a nalgene bottle user as well. Hmm.... guessing I will not be buying any more in the future.

gur
07-26-2006, 02:41 PM
boy, do i ever want a sigg bottle now!! so cool! thanks for allertin' us about 'em dandy. :silly:

bird
07-26-2006, 02:55 PM
I have the 24 oz. Kleen Kanteen with a white top.

Vegtink
07-26-2006, 04:35 PM
Well after seeing that bunny I ordered some sigg bottles.

bluedawg
07-26-2006, 05:03 PM
Vegtink, where did your order from and which designs did you get?

and LazyGirl, sigg has a purple(-ish) hello kitty bottle! woo!
http://www.swissknifeshop.com/prodinfo.asp?number=S807220

mamaquilla
07-26-2006, 05:10 PM
I'm not LazyGirl and all but I LOVE the Hello Kitty one!!!!!!!!! :happy:

bluedawg
07-26-2006, 05:16 PM
I'm not LazyGirl and all but I LOVE the Hello Kitty one!!!!!!!!! :happy:
hee, i got a kick out of it too. however, upon further reflection (that is, upon seeing a different picture at a different online retailer), i have to report that i believe it is pink, not purple.

Vegtink
07-26-2006, 06:31 PM
Vegtink, where did your order from and which designs did you get?


I ordered 1.5L Green Traveller Water Bottle & Hello Kitty .6L from amazon.com
Then a .6 L Summer bird and 1L Maharadsha from Earthy Birthy Mama.
I like to place them at places I frequent so I do not have so much stuff to carry around. One at home one at work kind of deal.

bluedawg
07-26-2006, 06:42 PM
I ordered 1.5L Green Traveller Water Bottle & Hello Kitty .6L from amazon.com
Then a .6 L Summer bird and 1L Maharadsha from Earthy Birthy Mama.
I like to place them at places I frequent so I do not have so much stuff to carry around. One at home one at work kind of deal.
mmmm, i love the green--did you see the green argyle one? too cute! i also really like the "night garden" design in the .6L version. and i'm part swiss, so i'm a sucker for the ones with the little swiss flag dealie on them.

i think i'm going to have to get one of the baby ones for my niece. her birthday is coming up! i like this one:

Emiloid
07-26-2006, 06:46 PM
I have a hard plastic non-Nalgene bottle that I got for free from someone who moved and left it behind. Lucky me! It's a weird shape, but it holds water and hey, it was free!

Also, I drink club soda sometimes in the summer, and I refill those bottles with tap water and save them under the sink in case of emergency. I was brought up in CA, man! Gotta be "earthquake safe"! :p

Oh yeah, sometimes I take one of those giant club soda bottles with me when I go on long car trips. If I'm really desperate, I'll buy a large bottled water at a store, but I have to be pretty desperate.

LazyGirl
07-26-2006, 07:42 PM
however, upon further reflection (that is, upon seeing a different picture at a different online retailer), i have to report that i believe it is pink, not purple.

Yup; it's pink, although it is one of the more acceptable shades, so you get points for that. It's still cute, though. (But not as cute as a purple one would be ;) )

bluedawg
07-26-2006, 07:48 PM
Yup; it's pink, although it is one of the more acceptable shades, so you get points for that.:laugh:

Miso Vegan
07-26-2006, 08:18 PM
I "won" a SIGG bottle (for completing a survey). Can't wait for it to come.

In the meantime, for everyday take-with-me drinking, I use glass. I decided it was worth it to pay extra for glass, and now I refill them for the car. One is a Voss and the other is a Tau water bottle.

Vegtink
08-02-2006, 11:11 AM
I am in :heart:with my new sigg bottles.

bird
08-02-2006, 01:28 PM
It's made out of plastic, but the value to me in keeping adequately hydrated is worth the risk.Risk? Did I miss something? I use the metal Kleen Kanteen, but just curious, since I use Lexan for my lunch containers (http://www.backcountry.com/store/GSI0042/c3/s15/GSI-Outdoor-Fairshare-Mug-LEX.html). I don't microwave my plastic; is there something beyond that I need to be worried about?

Miso Vegan
08-02-2006, 01:35 PM
Any plastic, heated or not, will leach. It leaches more when heated and when in contact with acidic or oily foods, but it's still not particularly safe in ways we (that is, scientists) are just starting to find out.

Then again, a lot of the alternatives are not much better for either environmental, health, or practical reasons.

quagga
08-02-2006, 01:37 PM
Risk? Did I miss something? I use the metal Kleen Kanteen, but just curious, since I use Lexan for my lunch containers (http://www.backcountry.com/store/GSI0042/c3/s15/GSI-Outdoor-Fairshare-Mug-LEX.html). I don't microwave my plastic; is there something beyond that I need to be worried about?

The plastic used in the camelbak probably leaches some compounds into the water--so that was the basis of my risk comment.

Some folks don't use plastic ever, even to store their food. I remember reading some posts from folks on VRF who don't use plastic because of these concerns. I think that their concern has a basis (even though unquantified), but again, the risk to me is acceptable, so I choose not to change my behavior.

bird
08-02-2006, 02:31 PM
d00d, this is craptastic news. what's the verdict on the safety of the stainless steel kleen kanteen i've been using, then? (as i mentally visualize all the plastic i have in my cupboards... :umm: )

bird
08-02-2006, 02:32 PM
ps: stupid question, but this includes stuff like sandwich baggies and cling wrap, too, right? :umm:

Miso Vegan
08-02-2006, 04:00 PM
Pliable plastic is considered worse, I believe.

Stainless steel is a fairly safe way to go. As far as I know, the metal does not leak as long as the integrity is good.

Glass is excellent, if inconvenient.

Y'know, bird, I say all this while drinking hot coffee from a plastic-lined travel mug, packing Miso Lite's lunch in both hard and soft plastic, and storing some foods in plastic when the glass ones are all used.

But I still think it's important to consider how often and easily we use plastic. Think about it in these terms: we are the first generation to have had exposure to plastic since we were born. We really have no idea what the long-term effects from all this exposure will be. We are only just now starting to get an inkling that there are ill-effects. We won't know the extent or severity until we are, as a generation, suffering from those effects. We can say we are or are not willing to take some risks, but we don't even know what we're risking! When I think that plastic is an inorganic material in an organic world, and I'm typing on it and staring at it and sitting on it and have food stored in it and eat from it and use bodycare products kept in it and I drive with it and and and ... it becomes a little scary. (So, I simply go "La la la!" and don't think about it!)

bird
08-02-2006, 04:08 PM
Now I'm thinking of that creepy line from The Graduate - you know, when he's in the pool? :shudder:

Miso Vegan
08-02-2006, 04:11 PM
Oh yeah, that is such an incredibly prophetic moment.

Dandelion
08-02-2006, 04:19 PM
I am in :heart:with my new sigg bottles.
me too!
herbi surprised me with a .6 liter skull and a 1 liter blue with various tops and vegan stickers to decorate. :happy:

nauthiz
08-02-2006, 04:21 PM
The upside about Lexan is that it isn't supposed to leach more chemicals when you heat it up, so if you gotta microwave your food storage containers, Lexan is the material to use.

That said, it does leach something that's supposed to cause cancer and "As a result, they have discovered that even low doses of BPA can cause hyperactivity, increased formation of fat, early onset of puberty, abnormal sexual behavior, disruption to normal reproductive cycles, and structural damage to the brain."* (I haven't found anything about quantity though, which makes it pretty hard to judge the scale of the risk. I mean, sunlight's pretty darned cancerous stuff but that doesn't scare me away from reading a book in the grass on saturday afternoons.)

My next water bottle is totally going to be a SIGG. If anything, that company deserves some money for taking the time to come up with an alternative to plastic linings that doesn't leach toxins.

*source: http://www.pristineplanet.com/newsletter/2005/06.asp

bird
08-02-2006, 04:47 PM
Look, the perfect vegan bottle!

http://www.swissbottle.com/ViewProduct.asp?ModelNumber=8062.10

vegbrain
08-02-2006, 05:56 PM
I found this bottle at Whole Foods recently. Very happy with it. Stainless Steel(No aluminum) !!!

http://www.isabellacatalog.com/images/pimages/5059.jpg

Miso Vegan
08-02-2006, 06:33 PM
Look, the perfect vegan bottle!

http://www.swissbottle.com/ViewProduct.asp?ModelNumber=8062.10

cyuuuuuuuute!!

Miso Vegan
08-02-2006, 06:33 PM
vegbrain, is that a sigg? It looks similar but not quite. The WF here have sigg bottles.

bird
08-02-2006, 06:39 PM
If I'm not mistaken that's the same Kleen Kanteen I have, except his is with the sport top, and mine is with the screw-on biner-ready loop top.

Miso Vegan
08-02-2006, 06:42 PM
Oh, that makes sense since vegbrain said it was stainless steel. :uhoh:

vegbrain
08-02-2006, 07:01 PM
vegbrain, is that a sigg? It looks similar but not quite. The WF here have sigg bottles.

Yep, Kleen Kanteen...

I love it because it has a septum release valve so the water flows out with no sucking at all(good for those sharp corners on the train in downtown!); I was always dripping on my chin and shirt with the screw tops; so I am a new convert. Plus, ZERO leaking for a sport top(which I've never been fond of), which is a plus considering it will be in my bag.

JasperKat
08-02-2006, 08:02 PM
So, do the sigg bottles filter, as well? I love how they look, but I ain't drinkin' tap water from nothin' no matter how cute it is! :p

-JK

bluedawg
08-02-2006, 08:30 PM
So, do the sigg bottles filter, as well? I love how they look, but I ain't drinkin' tap water from nothin' no matter how cute it is! :p

-JKthey don't filter, no. i received my new sigg bottle the other day and i've been filling it with water from my brita pitcher. :)

bird
08-02-2006, 08:37 PM
bluedawg, which ones did you get?

bluedawg
08-02-2006, 09:28 PM
i bought the .4L farm animal (http://www.swissbottle.com/ViewProduct.asp?ModelNumber=8061.10) one (i think i posted that earlier?) for my niece. it's so frickin' cute and guess what's on the back and not in any pictures? a bear, and also A DONKEY!! oh yeah i said it. i think i'm going to have to get one for myself now, a little small or no.

for myself i got the "night garden" (http://www.swissbottle.com/ViewProduct.asp?ModelNumber=8063.10) design in the .6L size. i thought i'd start with that and see how i like it; get more/bigger later. i also got a little blue neoprene sleeve (http://www.swissbottle.com/ViewProduct.asp?ModelNumber=8008.20) for it because it seemed like a good idea.

Miso Vegan
08-02-2006, 10:46 PM
bluedawg, did you get them from that site? Is it $6 shipping per bottle?

bird
08-02-2006, 11:02 PM
Miso, get them from swissknifeshop.com. Same selection, free shipping.

Miso Vegan
08-02-2006, 11:19 PM
kewl! how can they afford free shipping?

bird
08-02-2006, 11:22 PM
It's only mail that's free. Courier service is not free.

Dandelion
08-02-2006, 11:29 PM
i bought the .4L farm animal (http://www.swissbottle.com/ViewProduct.asp?ModelNumber=8061.10) one (i think i posted that earlier?) for my niece. it's so frickin' cute and guess what's on the back and not in any pictures? a bear, and also A DONKEY!! oh yeah i said it. i think i'm going to have to get one for myself now, a little small or no.
herbi was so enamored she bought the farm animal one for herself along with the order for my bottles. don't tell sunshine :uhoh:

bluedawg
08-03-2006, 12:10 AM
bluedawg, did you get them from that site? Is it $6 shipping per bottle?
well, now that bird has alerted us to the free shipping site (curses! oh well), you probably don't need an answer to this... but the answer is no. i think i paid $8 shipping for my whole order, which included 2 bottles, the neoprene sleeve, and a little kids' handle attachment.

Vegtink
08-03-2006, 04:57 AM
I love how excited we can get from water bottles.:laugh:

koolkat
08-03-2006, 02:50 PM
For us Canadians, you can order here:

http://www.northern-spirit.ca/



Look, the perfect vegan bottle!

http://www.swissbottle.com/ViewProduct.asp?ModelNumber=8062.10

koolkat
08-09-2006, 11:35 PM
Got my order of SIGG bottles today from the company below. Just ordered them late last week and they're already here. That's better than the mail service locally! I LOVE my new SIGGs! :cool:


For us Canadians, you can order here:

http://www.northern-spirit.ca/

gur
08-10-2006, 12:41 AM
oooh, which ones did you get? :silly: i've got some money burning a hole in my pocket but i'm having trouble deciding which one to buy.

it's such a hard life sometimes....:rolleyes:

koolkat
08-10-2006, 09:37 AM
I got Touch Red (8066.90) and Blue (7533.10), 1L each. It cost under $9 shipping for both and the order got here in two business days.

Miso Vegan
08-14-2006, 02:03 PM
I received my free Sigg bottle, and it's bigger than I expected - 1 liter.
Yay!

Too bad it has to advertise for Ideal Bite on it, but hey, no one will notice if my hand is wrapped around it!

Here 'tis:
http://idealbite.com/marketplace/biterbottles.php

Emiloid
08-14-2006, 04:08 PM
Too bad it has to advertise for Ideal Bite on it, but hey, no one will notice if my hand is wrapped around it!
Or you could cover it with a waterproof sticker, like a bumper sticker or bike sticker. That's what I did with my student mug that had a huge Pepsi logo on it. I covered the logo with a big green peace symbol. I mean, I do drink Pepsi sometimes, but I sure don't want to be a walking advertisement!

Miso Vegan
08-14-2006, 05:14 PM
Why didn't I think of that?! Thanks, Emiloid!

Emiloid
08-15-2006, 06:35 PM
De nada. :)

moonflower
08-15-2006, 06:39 PM
I can't believe a thread about water bottles has over 60 replies :laugh:

QrkyMoon
08-15-2006, 07:37 PM
I have a Nalgene-like bottle with a petfinder logo on it, so I really don't want to get rid of it (I like being a walking ad for them since they post my foster kitties for free!), but the button that connects the top to the top-holder (is there a name for it?) keeps poping out and causing the bottle to leak. I will replace it if necessary and put a bumper sticker on the new bottle... but before I do it, is there a safe glue I could use on it?

The glue would come into contact with the water in the bottle, so it has to be safe. I would be willing to use something semi-safe if I were the only one drinking out of it, but I always give my kittens water from it at adoption events, so it has to be 100% safe. Any suggestions?

Miso Vegan
08-15-2006, 08:27 PM
I can't believe a thread about water bottles has over 60 replies :laugh:
Shoot, we're just gettin' warmed up!

nauthiz
08-15-2006, 11:39 PM
The glue would come into contact with the water in the bottle, so it has to be safe. I would be willing to use something semi-safe if I were the only one drinking out of it, but I always give my kittens water from it at adoption events, so it has to be 100% safe. Any suggestions?

*Maybe* some sort of caulk that's approved for plumbing?

Of course, if you're looking for a really high-performance adhesive, I suggest this stuff. (http://www.greennest.com/product_info.php?cPath=35&products_id=122&osCsid=e45861752f1ddf0915dc3d111cce55e5)

bird
08-16-2006, 09:29 AM
From today's Ideal Bite:


Available from Kate's Caring Gifts (http://www.katescaringgifts.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?) in 27 oz and 18 oz 'kid' size. Use discount code BITER for a 20% discount on your entire order! However, I just got Siggs and would say they are much better bottles than my Kleen Kanteens. I'd recommend them over the stainless, but I thought I'd post the discount in case anyone is really attached to the Kleen Kanteen idea.

Btw, I have 2 Kleen Kanteens (with white screw tops) which I'm willing to donate to another VRFer if anyone wants them. One is a liter, the other is 24 oz. If no one wants them I'll just keep them for storing extra filtered water for cooking, but if you do, just shoot me an email or tell me on Myspace. I'll send 'em your way fer free. :)

Miso Vegan
08-16-2006, 09:45 AM
From today's Ideal Bite:
That's funny, that wasn't my Ideal Bite today. Wouldn't it be the same for everyone?
A few days ago the Ideal Bite I received had a whole bunch of ideas about water purification - I should post them in the other thread.

bird
08-16-2006, 09:47 AM
I think they are the same. Was yours about school lunches? This was just a footer ad I saw and decided to clip; it wasn't the main topic. I got the water purification one, too.

Miso Vegan
08-16-2006, 10:47 AM
Oh, yes, the ABCs of PB&J.
I see the ad now.

bird
08-16-2006, 09:24 PM
Btw, I have 2 Kleen Kanteens (with white screw tops) which I'm willing to donate to another VRFer if anyone wants them. One is a liter, the other is 24 oz. If no one wants them I'll just keep them for storing extra filtered water for cooking, but if you do, just shoot me an email or tell me on Myspace. I'll send 'em your way fer free. :)These have been claimed. Thanks!

mishka
08-18-2006, 09:58 AM
I'm excited! My hfs just started selling SIGG bottles and a few of the accessories. The boy bought a big one for his upcoming trip (mountain trekking in the Italian Alps *envy*) and I'ma gonna buy a purdy red one tonight.

bird
08-25-2006, 12:33 PM
These are the ones I got:

Everyday use:

http://www.swissbottle.com/images/product/8065.00-1.jpg

Bike bottle:

http://www.swissbottle.com/images/product/Thumbnails/8026.70-1.jpg

Thermal mug:

http://www.swissbottle.com/images/product/8032.00-1.jpg

mishka
08-25-2006, 12:35 PM
I have this one sitting right next to me. I find myself drinking more water just because the bottle is so pretty. :rolleyes:

http://www.swissbottle.com/images/product/8063.10-1.jpg

Dandelion
08-25-2006, 12:43 PM
this one for bike/home (kinda weird drinking something out of a bottle with a :skull: on it :silly:) :
http://www.swissbottle.com/images/product/Thumbnails/8079.30-1.jpg

and this one at work:
http://www.swissbottle.com/images/product/Thumbnails/7533.30-1.jpg

QrkyMoon
08-25-2006, 12:51 PM
I have this one sitting right next to me. I find myself drinking more water just because the bottle is so pretty. :rolleyes:

http://www.swissbottle.com/images/product/8063.10-1.jpg

Oooh! It's beautiful!! I want one! :)

hazelfaern
08-25-2006, 12:59 PM
*


I love this mug, Bird.


Thermal mug:

http://www.swissbottle.com/images/product/8032.00-1.jpg

bird
08-25-2006, 01:26 PM
It's teeny! A lot smaller than I expected. :( Probably okay for most people, but as we know, I eat a lot. Hardly worth the bother of filling it, but I'm keeping it anyway because it's cute.

Miso Vegan
08-25-2006, 01:37 PM
OMG, yes, 250 ml is small. Especially for bird, but still, small for anyone except maybe as a part of a kid's lunch.

Photos are deceiving.

bird
08-25-2006, 01:48 PM
Yeah, I totally never have any conception of how numbers translate into actual volume. I am so not the right kind of person to be buying stuff online. :rolleyes:

hazelfaern
08-25-2006, 01:50 PM
OMG, yes, 250 ml is small. Especially for bird, but still, small for anyone except maybe as a part of a kid's lunch.

Photos are deceiving.

Ah. I had to look that up -- I'm much more familiar with fluid ounces.

I actually used to have several 8 oz travel mugs, but that was back when I drank mucho espresso, so the size was perfect for me. (I used to stop by my store and get a short Americano with 3 or 4 shots of espresso on my days off). I loved my petite little mugs. And I miss espresso. Sigh.

But yes, the short 8 oz size is usually considered the kids size. One of my mugs had a barnyard print on it :)

vegbrain
08-25-2006, 01:58 PM
Ok, I am an aluminum-paranoid person....can you convince me that the 'impermeable alloy coating' in the bottle really is impermeable? Aluminum and the Central Nervous System do NOT get along very well. So, I hesitate to drink out of a 100% aluminum container every day...eeeks.:confused:

bluedawg
08-25-2006, 02:15 PM
I have this one sitting right next to me. I find myself drinking more water just because the bottle is so pretty. :rolleyes:

http://www.swissbottle.com/images/product/8063.10-1.jpg
that's the same one i bought, mishka! then last week i bought another in a larger size:
http://www.swissbottle.com/images/product/7533.20-1.jpg

...and i brought it to work today for the first time. :)

Dandelion
08-25-2006, 03:30 PM
Ok, I am an aluminum-paranoid person....can you convince me that the 'impermeable alloy coating' in the bottle really is impermeable? Aluminum and the Central Nervous System do NOT get along very well. So, I hesitate to drink out of a 100% aluminum container every day...eeeks.:confused:
it's fine, i've been drinkin outta these and....


...wat weer we tawking abowt?

herbi
08-25-2006, 04:34 PM
Yeah, I was a little worried about them being made out of aluminum when I first was looking into this, and searched around for a readily available non-plastic alternative. But I guess in the end, I decided I just believed them when they said that the interior coating meant your drink never came into contact with the aluminum, even if you were drinking something very acidic. That belief, plus the fact that they're lightweight, recyclable, and - I admit it - darn cute, led me to think they were my best alternative to reusing empty "disposable" plastic bottles as I had been doing. (C'mon, how can you not believe the Swiss? ;)) Plus, it's my understanding that there is still some controversy about the exact nature of the potential link between aluminum and Alzheimer's, so I'm not SUPER paranoid (yet), and my overall daily exposure is already very low compared to the average person's - I drink a canned beverage maybe a few times a year, I never eat processed fast food cheese anymore, and don't use deodorants or antacids with aluminum. (I think one of our pots might be, but the others are iron, steel, or Teflon - which is just as bad depending on who you talk to...)

Around the house, I usually use some empty glass bottles from some Trader Joe's French Berry Lemonade & Carbonated Organic Limeade for my water needs, because they're handy and large (1.75 L), so they need to be refilled less often. But they're too big and much too heavy to carry in my bag, etc, hence the Siggs.

I ordered a 1L Maharadsha, but they were out of stock, so I only just now got the email confirmation that it has been shipped, haven't gotten it yet. I also got a 0.6L plain green Traveler, which I adorned with a bumper sticker - one of those made to look like a European country-code sticker, a large white oval with black trim that says "VGN" (and underneath in much smaller font, "www.goveg.com"). That's the bottle I take to work every day (since I eat breakfast & drink water on my walk in), so it sits on the counter with the other mugs & water bottles as a little silent Representer. :) I could not resist getting the 0.4L farm animal design that bluedawg talked about-- so cute!!! It's little, but I figure if we ever go on a trip and I want to take some soymilk or booze or something that I don't need as much of as I need H20, that can be my justification for owning it. :D

mishka
08-25-2006, 04:34 PM
that's the same one i bought, mishka!
Yay! Aw.. weez like 'night garden' sistahs.

Emiloid
08-25-2006, 06:09 PM
I got my Kleen Kanteen from bird yesterday. Thanks, bird! :thumbsup:

Also, I found out recently that those are made in Chico! Maybe I already posted that, but anyway, I thought it was pretty neat.

Dandelion
08-25-2006, 06:37 PM
I got my Kleen Kanteen from bird yesterday. Thanks, bird! :thumbsup:

Also, I found out recently that those are made in Chico! Maybe I already posted that, but anyway, I thought it was pretty neat.
well that was alotta unnecessary product miles. ;)

Emiloid
08-25-2006, 07:10 PM
well that was alotta unnecessary product miles. ;)

Ha! :p

bird
08-25-2006, 08:16 PM
well that was alotta unnecessary product miles. ;)You don't know the half of it! I bought that suckah in Seattle, brought it to NYC, back to Seattle, to Portland, Seattle, back to NYC, and finally to Minneapolis. It's probably relieved to be safe in Chico again. :laugh:

Dandelion
08-25-2006, 08:18 PM
// //
O_i__|

i hope it has those cartoon luggage stickers all over it. that would be cool!

bird
08-25-2006, 08:20 PM
Oh wait, no, never mind. That was hazelfaern's bottle. Em's didn't go as far because I didn't take the big one around with me as much. Sonja's bottle has traveled the least - it came to me in Minneapolis and went straight back out again today.

nauthiz
08-25-2006, 08:20 PM
They make a hip flask shaped SIGG bottle that's stainless steel, too. And there's some other brand whose bottles are almost exactly like SIGG except they say something other than SIGG and they're stainless and a bit cheaper.

The other day I was at an outdoor store looking at them. I didn't buy one 'cuz I didn't have enough cash on me, but for a moment I had this really intense urge to buy a solid-color one and spray-stencil "HUMAN BLOOD" on it.

bird
08-25-2006, 08:22 PM
Are you thinking of the Burton's bottles? I find they get dented realllly easily. Like, you'll see them already dented at the store!

Dandelion
08-25-2006, 08:26 PM
They make a hip flask shaped SIGG bottle that's stainless steel, too.
SHUDDUP, where?!!


Are you thinking of the Burton's bottles? I find they get dented realllly easily. Like, you'll see them already dented at the store!
the sigg bottles i found dent VERY easily! My bottle already has several dents from falling off the table and bumping against a desk when full. Perhaps though relatively they're sturdier? :confused:

Emiloid
08-25-2006, 08:27 PM
The other day I was at an outdoor store looking at them. I didn't buy one 'cuz I didn't have enough cash on me, but for a moment I had this really intense urge to buy a solid-color one and spray-stencil "HUMAN BLOOD" on it.
That's a great idea! :cool:

bird
08-25-2006, 08:32 PM
the sigg bottles i found dent VERY easily! My bottle already has several dents from falling off the table and bumping against a desk when full. Perhaps though relatively they're sturdier? :confused:flask (http://www.swissknifeshop.com/prodinfo.asp?number=SOVAL)

Yeah, my Sigg bottle (http://www.swissknifeshop.com/prodinfo.asp?number=S806320) got several dents in it, and I only owned it for about a week. :( Sorry, Sonja. I'm hoping the new blue bike-style one I got will hold up better. It seems to have thicker/sturdier walls than the regular kind (and is not as lightweight as a consequence).

nauthiz
08-25-2006, 08:47 PM
I must be weird. I think the dents are one of the things that make metal bottles neat. It makes each one unique.











And dented.

Dandelion
08-25-2006, 09:40 PM
oh dents are great as long as they don't affect the functionality. :)

Dandelion
08-25-2006, 09:40 PM
flask (http://www.swissknifeshop.com/prodinfo.asp?number=SOVAL)

mmmmm saweet, thanks birdy. :kiss:

grog
08-25-2006, 09:44 PM
must vegans even make drinking water complex? :rolleyes: :p

Dandelion
08-25-2006, 09:51 PM
my mom thought i eschewed the plastic bottle of water she offered for the sigg bottle in my bike pack because it must be "organic" water. :rolleyes:
short answer: no
long answer: yes
:p

bird
08-25-2006, 10:03 PM
oh dents are great as long as they don't affect the functionality. :)Dents are fine on a skull bottle; it's all part of a theme. Another thing when it's a girly floral birdy bottle. ;) Not that I got rid of it because of the dents! I decided the one-handed functionality (and larger volume) of the bike bottle was more in line with what I wanted.


must vegans even make drinking water complex? :rolleyes: :pIt'd be so unlike me to not overthink things! :o

downwithapathy
08-25-2006, 10:23 PM
Sonja's bottle has traveled the least
My bottle!!!!!! :D:D:D:D:D:D

Dents: whatever! :):p:D

downwithapathy
08-28-2006, 06:52 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v84/vegansonja/Storage/S806320.jpgMy bottle (arrived today)!!! Many, many thanks (bird)! :)

bird
08-28-2006, 07:56 PM
Already? Holy crapsters, that was fast! I am luurving the postal service today, fer serious. :heart: Glad you like it. :kiss: Mailing stuff to VRFers is teh hotness.

bird
08-28-2006, 08:15 PM
You know what else is awesome about the Sigg bike bottle? They didn't pimp this in the copy, so I'm only now just realizing it, but the water only flows one way. Therefore, it's impossible to backwash into it. Cool!

nauthiz
08-28-2006, 08:45 PM
But then how would I be able to deter people from drinking out of my bottle when I'm not looking?

Miso Vegan
08-28-2006, 10:06 PM
Tell 'em they'll get the veeeegun germs.

Sunshine
08-28-2006, 11:14 PM
I love my Siggs! But.......... they do indeed dent very easily - so here's the question - you know how you're never supposed to eat anything from a dented can - something about the chemicals (lead in the old days) leaching into the food - well then how about a dented Sigg?

Dandelion
08-28-2006, 11:16 PM
Can dents in the bottle damage the inner coating?
No, the inner coating is highly elastic. Dents cannot crack the coating and the SIGG bottle remains perfectly usable.
:cool:

nauthiz
08-28-2006, 11:24 PM
Tell 'em they'll get the veeeegun germs.

<sigh> If only. I'd love to be able to make the world a better place by surreptitiously licking all the coffee mugs at work.

Vegtink
08-29-2006, 09:53 AM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v84/vegansonja/Storage/S806320.jpgMy bottle (arrived today)!!! Many, many thanks (bird)! :)
This one must be a hot design for Vegans. I have the same as well. Alothough I did leave it in a friends fridge. Looks like I will have to spend the weekend at the beach again darn!

nauthiz
08-29-2006, 09:54 AM
Looks like I will have to spend the weekend at the beach again darn!

:cry::cry: {{{{{{Vegtink}}}}}}

Vegtink
08-29-2006, 10:14 AM
:cry::cry: {{{{{{Vegtink}}}}}}
I know what ever am I going to do. I guess I will just have to make a weekend out of it so I can soak up some sun just to feel better.

Emiloid
09-02-2006, 05:49 PM
I started using my new Kleen Kanteen today. (I'd forgotten to switch over... such a creature of habit!) I really like it! Thanks bird! :)

downwithapathy
09-02-2006, 06:01 PM
I take my SIGG bottle EVERYWHERE. :) It got its first known Sonja-induced dent a few days ago on the bus.

bird
09-03-2006, 02:10 AM
Ha, you guys are adorable. :heart:

rosa
09-10-2006, 10:58 AM
From today's Ideal Bite:

However, I just got Siggs and would say they are much better bottles than my Kleen Kanteens. I'd recommend them over the stainless, but I thought I'd post the discount in case anyone is really attached to the Kleen Kanteen idea.

Btw, I have 2 Kleen Kanteens (with white screw tops) which I'm willing to donate to another VRFer if anyone wants them. One is a liter, the other is 24 oz. If no one wants them I'll just keep them for storing extra filtered water for cooking, but if you do, just shoot me an email or tell me on Myspace. I'll send 'em your way fer free. :)
hello Bird,
If you still have those kleen kanteens I would be interested in them.
-Rosa

vegbrain
09-10-2006, 01:08 PM
So, we bought a couple of stainless steel bottles from the great company http://www.enviroproductsinc.com

The bottle resembles the Sigg in design, but its selling point for me was that it's all stainless steel, not aluminum. Then I poke around looking at the threads that close the lid... I e-mail customer service and inquire. The threads are made out of aluminum! Is there a lack of logic in that or am I crazy?

http://www.epromos.com/productimg/8816891S.jpg

But, I am still very proud of and happy with my other New Wave Enviro leach free bottle:

http://www.newwaveenviro.com/NWEP_Product_Images/SS-Bottles-500.jpg

herbi
09-10-2006, 02:46 PM
The threads are made out of aluminum! Is there a lack of logic in that or am I crazy?

That's crazy! Did they say why?
Cool bottles, BTW. :)

hazelfaern
09-11-2006, 08:22 AM
Vegbrain, that link doesn't seem to be working

vegbrain
09-11-2006, 10:37 AM
Sorry, they changed domain names: http://www.newwaveenviro.com

I think they completely removed that line of bottles from their products.

mishka
09-11-2006, 02:27 PM
I bought a new lid for my SIGG, but I'm not sure I'm using it right. It has a snap dome that goes over a little twisty top. The problem I'm having is when I suck from the twisty top (I figure it works like a straw?) lots of air sneaks in. Is my lid faulty, or are ya supposed to be sucking in so much air? This happens even when the bottle is full and completely inverted.

*burp*

http://www.northern-spirit.ca/images/products/7819_40.jpg

stegan
09-11-2006, 02:28 PM
http://www.northern-spirit.ca/images/products/7819_40.jpg
Luke, I am your father...

bluedawg
09-12-2006, 04:32 PM
Luke, I am your father...
that took me a second, but hee!

mishka, i don't have any of those lids, so i don't know for sure... but that doesn't quite seem right. :umm:

Emiloid
09-12-2006, 05:16 PM
Luke, I am your father...
That's exactly what I was thinking! Maybe it looks more like the helmet from Spaceballs, though... the one worn by Rick Moranis's character.

koolkat
10-06-2006, 04:49 PM
I opened up my 4-pack of Brita filters to replace my month-old Brita pitcher filter and the pack contained a free cool Brita water bottle. I turned it upside down - Made in China and the shocking # 7 stamp. Irresponsible! Oy vay! Needless to say, that bottle has ended up in the garbage. Can't even recycle it. Nice.

"7 Other (usually polycarbonate) Baby bottles, microwave ovenware, eating utensils, plastic coating for metal cans BAD: Made with biphenyl-A, a chemical invented in the 1930s in search for synthetic estrogens. A hormone disruptor. Simulates the action of estrogen when tested in human breast cancer studies. Can leach into food as product ages."
http://www.care2.com/channels/solutions/home/2082

bluesky
10-06-2006, 06:56 PM
I have the 40oz Klean Kanteen. I bought it after I got freaked out by the whole 'plastic leaching toxins' thing. I love my Klean Kanteen, I got the loop top so I can strap it to my body on hikes. I thought about buying the sling attachment, but my old purse strap works ok.

stegan
10-08-2006, 07:50 AM
While wandering around yesterday, we happened into a gift shop that also happened to be a sigg retailer (it's a very eclectic shop, one of my favorite places), so I took the plunge, so to speak, and bought a 0.6 bottle with a goldy colored sports cap. Very exciting!

What's really interesting is that I went on the sigg website and can't find the pattern that's on mine- it's a black undercoat, with many multicolored horizontal stripes on it. Is there such a thing as a discontinued collectible sigg???

stegan
10-26-2006, 07:50 AM
The Bottled Water Lie (http://www.alternet.org/story/43480/)

It's a long article, so I won't repost the entire thing here, but this is the most telling quote:


In fact, many times bottled water is tap water. Contrary to the image of water flowing from pristine mountain springs, more than a quarter of bottled water actually comes from municipal water supplies. The industry is dominated by three companies, who together control more than half the market: Coca-Cola, which produces Dasani; Pepsi, which produces Aquafina; and Nestlé, which produces several "local" brands including Poland Spring, Arrowhead, Deer Park, Ozarka and Calistoga (a fact that itself often surprises participants in the Tap Water Challenges). Both Coke and Pepsi exclusively use tap water for their source, while Nestlé uses tap water in some brands.

bird
10-26-2006, 08:47 AM
That was an awesome article, stegan. I forwarded it. Thanks for posting! :)

atouria
11-10-2006, 10:50 PM
You guys are seriously making me want a Sigg.. I love the night garden and the summer bird.

mishka
11-10-2006, 10:51 PM
Night garden is hawt. You should totally succumb.

xparsnipx
11-10-2006, 11:50 PM
i'm a nalgene girl.:silly:

Miso Vegan
11-11-2006, 03:11 AM
:::gasp!::: parsnip, you haven't read back through the thread, have you? ;)

QrkyMoon
11-11-2006, 01:11 PM
i'm a nalgene girl.:silly:

Unfortunately, nalgene tests on animals (http://www.veganrepresent.com/forums/showpost.php?p=138906&postcount=9).

peaches
11-11-2006, 01:47 PM
which bottles have filters in them? i would like one...:smitten:

bird
11-12-2006, 03:10 PM
Researcher Dispels Myth of Dioxins and Plastic Water Bottles (http://www.jhsph.edu/publichealthnews/articles/halden_dioxins.html)

Miso Vegan
11-12-2006, 03:26 PM
Y'know, that water bottle hoax, and the article/researcher are misleading in another way - dioxins are not the problem with plastic bottles, never were. It's the phthalates from the plastic bottles that are the concern, not dioxin. Phthalates are thought to act on hormones.

So this researcher can dispel the myth of dioxin all he wants - he hasn't proven that plastic water bottles are safe (although I agree that freezing them is another non-issue, it's the heat that extracts, which anyone notices if they leave a water bottle in the car on a hot day then drinks it).

And, he doesn't address the fact that chlorinated tap water is a huge source of chlorine-->dioxin.

bird
11-12-2006, 03:30 PM
he does mention phthalates in there, though. we know dioxins were not a danger, but i guess the article was for people who didn't know.

atouria
01-11-2007, 05:13 PM
I know that kleen kanteen does, but does Sigg make a sippy cup? I see the cute lil' kid bottles and the kiddie grips, but no sippy cup type of opening.

atouria
01-12-2007, 08:18 PM
I'm about to order a sigg bottle for myself. How are you guys all feeling about yours. Is it all denty and crappy looking or is it spiffy and not even scratched?

I think I'm gonna go against the grain and get the blue circles one (http://www.reusablebags.com/store/sigg-lifestyle-2006-series-reusable-bottles-p-595.html) (so it'll match my brown and blue diaper bag, cause it won't be holding baby bottles.) :p

Dandelion
01-12-2007, 08:35 PM
I'm about to order a sigg bottle for myself. How are you guys all feeling about yours. Is it all denty and crappy looking or is it spiffy and not even scratched?

I think I'm gonna go against the grain and get the blue circles one (http://www.reusablebags.com/store/sigg-lifestyle-2006-series-reusable-bottles-p-595.html) (so it'll match my brown and blue diaper bag, cause it won't be holding baby bottles.) :p
yeah they dent easily but i like it. :)
Hippies around me are skeptical about the aluminum/coating but it hasntn afektd mi at 4ll

herbi
01-12-2007, 08:42 PM
Mine isn't dented at all, and I carry it back & forth to work every day in my bag. I dunno what D did to his!

Mine DOES have small teeth marks on the plastic lid-handle, though, because one time right after I had gotten it, the lid went on funny & got jammed & I had to bite it to get enough leverage to open it. :embarr: Haven't had any problems since then, though. :)

Miso Vegan
01-13-2007, 12:23 AM
My son's is dented and it makes it look cool. :)

Mine is perfect because I never remember it. :(

downwithapathy
01-13-2007, 12:56 AM
Mine's gettin' kind of denty. I definitely prefer Sigg to the Made in China ones, but I have to ask... How do the stainless steel bottles hold up in comparison?

bluedawg
01-13-2007, 09:57 AM
neither of my siggs are dented, but i don't use them every day, and i have a neoprene (or whatever) sleeve for the one i use most often, and i'm also pretty careful with them, so who knows. heh.

bird
01-15-2007, 10:35 AM
I went back to my old Nalgene. :( I still have the light blue Sigg with the Active Sport top that I use for working out because it can be operated with just one hand, which is ideal for being on the cardio machines at the Y. I also have the Active Sport Sigg in black sitting in my bike bottle cage, and sometimes use the pink thermal kiddie-size mug for taking teas or smoothies to work.

But for daily water use I take the plastic. I found that I would never remember to actually drink out of the Sigg when I was using that. :( Sad because they are better and prettier and all, but I figured the whole point of toting water around is to drink it, so that has to come first. If I can't see the water level, I don't have a visual prompt to lower it, and I end up dehyrated. Silly but true. :rolleyes:

atouria
01-15-2007, 10:57 AM
slightly OT, but {{{{{bird}}}}} I miss you!

bird
01-15-2007, 11:18 AM
heh. i miss you, too, babe! i'm at the office right now using the computer b/c i'm in-between visits (dentist this morning at 9 and physical therapy at noon). no one is here because we're closed due to mlk day. :kiss:

so excited about your upcoming arrival! :silly:

miss everybody on vrf! :heart:

atouria
01-19-2007, 04:06 PM
I finally got my Sigg bottle!

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y9/atouria/sigg.jpg

It looks much better in person.. I :heart: it! I find myself wanting a pink one, too, though. :p

Do any of you use the cleaning kit? I'd imagine one wouldn't really need it if they used their sigg for water only. I'm curious though.

bluedawg
01-19-2007, 04:45 PM
i just rinse mine out really well and give the mouth area a little scrub. :) no fancy kit!

Dandelion
01-19-2007, 04:49 PM
Do any of you use the cleaning kit? I'd imagine one wouldn't really need it if they used their sigg for water only. I'm curious though.
oh no! did they upsell you the cleaning kit?!
(nah i do the same as bluediggity :))

atouria
01-19-2007, 04:58 PM
Nope! I didn't buy it. :) I thought a toothbrush would work just fine.

quagga
01-19-2007, 05:13 PM
Two words on cleaning: backwash and biofilm

atouria
01-19-2007, 05:29 PM
Two words on cleaning: backwash and biofilm

elaborate pls. Will hot soapy water and vigorous shaking, wiping down the mouth area, etc not be enough?

quagga
01-19-2007, 05:38 PM
In my opinion, soapy water and shaking are not enough. I think you need to get in there physically and disrupt the microbial colonies. Scrubbing would work -- but because you can't see or feel down in the bottom of the bottle, how do you know you've gotten everything?

Is the biofilm per se dangerous? I don't know. Probably not, or else you probably would have heard something or other about it in the news or on some forum or blog, either in relation to water bottles or even further back in history with Thermoses and such.

My unscientific basis for this opinion is my cat's water bowls, which have nothing but clean water in them, but which start to develop biofilm after a day's use, depending on temperature.

atouria
01-19-2007, 05:42 PM
Hmm.. my next thought would be a bottle brush that's used for babies. Even the sigg bottle cleaner doesnt' look like it would clean the bottom very well.

mishka
01-19-2007, 06:59 PM
i just rinse mine out really well and give the mouth area a little scrub. :) no fancy kit!
+2

Miso Vegan
01-26-2007, 01:17 PM
I always let my son's completely air-dry between refills, and check for biofilm slime - for the same reason quagga's concerned about it - cat water dishes!

BUT! The real reason I came to this thread: my son's Sigg BROKE! :o WTF?

Right under the threading on the neck (not a great pic, but):

atouria
01-26-2007, 01:32 PM
omg, weird! have you tried emailing where you bought it from or sigg themselves? I would expect a sigg to last for-evv-errr (said like that kid in the movie Sandlot).

Also, I finally got to use my sigg at a breastfeeding class the other night. The little hole in the cap is genius! I just wear it on my finger like a ring while I drink. Don't have to worry about setting it down, holding it, or dropping it. R0x0r!

Dandelion
01-26-2007, 01:32 PM
I always let my son's completely air-dry between refills, and check for biofilm slime - for the same reason quagga's concerned about it - cat water dishes!

BUT! The real reason I came to this thread: my son's Sigg BROKE! :o WTF?

Right under the threading on the neck (not a great pic, but):
woah that's crazay!

herbi
01-26-2007, 02:56 PM
The little hole in the cap is genius! I just wear it on my finger like a ring while I drink. Don't have to worry about setting it down, holding it, or dropping it. R0x0r!

I agree completely! :yes:

That's crazy about Miso Lite's Sigg breaking like that. What the heck did he do to the poor thing? ;)

Miso Vegan
01-26-2007, 04:20 PM
Heee! That's what's funny - Miso Lite is SEVEN. Not terribly strong! It obviously broke at a point where it's welded so it must've been a weak weld.

I have noticed that the seal gets stronger through the day, so that when it comes (came) home in his lunchbox, the seal was quite firm (enough for me to have to lean into it a bit to get the handle off) and even gave a bit of a sucking sound when it released. As if it had vaccuum-sealed itself.
Does this happen to anyone else's? I just assumed it was a Sigg thing.

I bought it from WFM and can exchange it there, but I do wanna go straight to Sigg and see what they say. I just haven't yet.

bluedawg
01-26-2007, 06:23 PM
I have noticed that the seal gets stronger through the day, so that when it comes (came) home in his lunchbox, the seal was quite firm (enough for me to have to lean into it a bit to get the handle off) and even gave a bit of a sucking sound when it released. As if it had vaccuum-sealed itself.
Does this happen to anyone else's? I just assumed it was a Sigg thing.not that i've noticed! i'll try to pay better attention, though.

quagga
01-26-2007, 06:24 PM
I have noticed that the seal gets stronger through the day, so that when it comes (came) home in his lunchbox, the seal was quite firm (enough for me to have to lean into it a bit to get the handle off) and even gave a bit of a sucking sound when it released. As if it had vaccuum-sealed itself.

I don't have a sigg, but...here's my guess about the vacuum sealing. When the sigg gets warm (and it's uninsulated metal, right? that is an excellent heat conductor), the air in it expands and escapes the seal. Then the bottle cools off a bit, which causes the air trapped inside to contract and then pull the cap in (or, rather, the plastic/silicone seal) a little tighter, creating a vacuum and making it harder to open. Maybe??

BTW -- that's quite a nasty dent that little Miso's sigg has in it...

Miso Vegan
01-26-2007, 07:58 PM
quagga I'll be you're right about the air temp change.

yep. that dent happened within seconds of him owning it (okay, a day or two) and a few more followed soon after, but Sigg swears this is fine because the inside is verrrrry elastic. (You can feel and see the dents on the inside and there are no breaks in the enamel).

herbi
01-26-2007, 08:13 PM
I wonder why mine hasn't dented so far? Everyone else's has it sounds like! I must be more careful with it than I think I am! :p

bluedawg
01-26-2007, 08:15 PM
i'm nerdiliciously careful with mine. i have two siggs and zero dents. :silly:

the smaller one has a neoprene sleeve which helps keep it safe, but really i'm pretty careful with them. when the inevitable dent happens, i'll try to remember that it's a badge of honor.

atouria
01-26-2007, 08:16 PM
I wonder why mine hasn't dented so far? Everyone else's has it sounds like! I must be more careful with it than I think I am! :p

I predict herbi getting a dent in her sigg within the next 2 weeks! (shhhh)

:p

michiganveganchick
04-07-2007, 11:43 AM
i was shopping at REI's garage sale today for camping gear and ran across this! i love i!

*mod note: edited picture smaller*

Miso Vegan
04-07-2007, 03:14 PM
dang, that's cute. I should shop those garage sales....


<-- never camps

grog
04-07-2007, 04:50 PM
so, um, can i bee the noob now and say I'm too lazy to read this thread....i'm looking for a large water bottle with a filter that makes water taste good. I need something for when I visit my office as their water tastes like ass and I end up drinking soda instead, or buying 24 bottles of plastic water. i don't care what it looks like or if it dents....

michiganveganchick
04-07-2007, 04:52 PM
That's funny, I've been looking for a filter that makes my filtered water taste like ass! :p

Bluedawg said she uses a Brita water bottle that has its own filter....

michiganveganchick
04-07-2007, 04:57 PM
I should shop those garage sales....

i actually wasn't very clear, i realize. i went to the garage sale and found nothing useful. i bought the Sigg bottle from the store (regular price) on my way out. I think you have to go super early and wait outside for those garage sales. We got there at 9:00 and were #910 in the door. Perhaps that 'splains why pretty much all that was left was discounted compasses, which, when i picked up and looked at the tag, realized the reason they were discounted was because "comass doesn't work" :umm: (sure, it doesn't tell you what direction you're headed - but it was only $5! :laugh: )

bird
04-07-2007, 07:06 PM
Bluedawg said she uses a Brita water bottle that has its own filter....yes, but she also said that it seemed to be discontinued because she couldn't find it in stores anymore. i believe jasperkat tried to locate one and found one on ebay? (i'm also too lazy to look back through the thread, relying on memory here).

Miso Vegan
04-07-2007, 09:29 PM
so, um, can i bee the noob now and say I'm too lazy to read this thread....i'm looking for a large water bottle with a filter that makes water taste good. I need something for when I visit my office as their water tastes like ass and I end up drinking soda instead, or buying 24 bottles of plastic water. i don't care what it looks like or if it dents....
Hmm, if I could get to my storage (that'd be mom's barn in New York) I'd send you my old Brita.

But! You're in luck. New Wave Environmental makes one (http://www.newwaveenviro.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=8_2_12&products_id=87), in a corn resin bottle. :)
(They're a new product, so might be hard to find. But their customer service is excellent, and can probably help you.)

bluedawg
04-09-2007, 08:37 PM
i was shopping at REI's garage sale today for camping gear and ran across this! i love it!
that's the same one i have! :happy:

and yep, you guys are right... i have a brita water bottle with a filter inside, but i'm pretty sure it's discontinued. i stocked up on filters awhile back and haven't scouted around lately... but ebay is often a safe bet!

michiganveganchick
04-09-2007, 08:53 PM
*mod note: edited picture smaller*

thanks to whoever did that - is there somewhere around here that tells you how to make the picture smaller before posting?

Miso Vegan
04-12-2007, 12:30 PM
But! You're in luck. New Wave Environmental makes one (http://www.newwaveenviro.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=8_2_12&products_id=87), in a corn resin bottle. :)
(They're a new product, so might be hard to find. But their customer service is excellent, and can probably help you.)
I'm a wee bit disappointed that grog has not sent me thank you flowers for this suggestion.

:p

But anyway, I actually came to this thread to share that Ideal Bite has arranged for a 30% discount on Sigg bottles at www.mysigg.com using promo code
BiterVIP30

JasperKat
04-14-2007, 09:43 AM
yes, but she also said that it seemed to be discontinued because she couldn't find it in stores anymore. i believe jasperkat tried to locate one and found one on ebay? (i'm also too lazy to look back through the thread, relying on memory here).


Yep, I found one on Ebay, but they don't make the filters anymore, so I didn't buy it.

Here's (http://www.purewater2go.com/bottles.html)one by Pure Water, and this (http://www.waterfilters.net/Filters/waterbottles/sportbottles.htm)one by Culligan.

-JK

MercurialMary
04-14-2007, 05:40 PM
I just got 2 SIGG bottles - Night Garden for me and Hello Kitty for baby Mary. I love them!

I have also ordered 2 large (1 liter, I think) Klean Kanteens for work for my husband and me, but I haven't received them yet...

bird
04-17-2007, 02:37 PM
every time i buy water bottles i swear they are the last ones i will ever buy. :rolleyes: hopefully it's true this time. :blank:

i got herbi's bottle:

http://www.swissbottle.com/images/product/8024.90-1.jpg

and this new one:

atouria
04-17-2007, 02:40 PM
Ohh, I love the red one. I almost bought it when I was shopping for mine, but I knew I'd be more apt to grab the smaller bottle instead. I wish it came in the smaller size!

That yellow one is so you, bird!

vegankitty
04-17-2007, 08:25 PM
Ohh, I love the red one. I almost bought it when I was shopping for mine, but I knew I'd be more apt to grab the smaller bottle instead. I wish it came in the smaller size!

That yellow one is so you, bird!

I love the rd one too.It was my second choice.

Jessica
04-17-2007, 09:24 PM
I'd love a water bottle that had the screw at the widest part of the bottle so you could take it apart to clean it easily. Leakproof, of course.

bird
04-18-2007, 12:55 AM
I love the rd one too.It was my second choice.i know, i was totally torn between the red and the new purple version that just came out of that same design. purple is my favorite color, but the contrast didn't seem great enough on that one, versus the contrasting colors on the red one.

grog
04-18-2007, 01:47 AM
Hmm, if I could get to my storage (that'd be mom's barn in New York) I'd send you my old Brita.

But! You're in luck. New Wave Environmental makes one (http://www.newwaveenviro.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=8_2_12&products_id=87), in a corn resin bottle. :)
(They're a new product, so might be hard to find. But their customer service is excellent, and can probably help you.)

but it disolves in 60 days...

Chijou_no_seiza
04-18-2007, 03:15 AM
but it disolves in 60 days...

It don't work like that! PLA will act jus like normal plastic, true it might warp a lil' easier, but don't go spreading lies! :p

Miso Vegan
04-18-2007, 11:35 AM
You tell 'im, Chijou!!

bird
04-21-2007, 02:06 PM
my siggs came. i don't like them. i'm returning them. :rolleyes: im'a l00ser.

Miso Vegan
04-21-2007, 02:45 PM
What don't you like?

mamaquilla
04-21-2007, 02:47 PM
oh no, what was the deciding factor in returning them???
You NOT a loser, you dicerning!!!! :D

bird
04-23-2007, 06:11 PM
the yellow was WAY TOO BRIGHT. it looked like butterflies in pee. and i don't like butterflies to begin with.

the red was painted streakily and it also didn't have a contrasting purple bottm like i thought it would. it's solid red.

i got a replacement for the defective nalgene cap over the weekend. i am back to using that.

Chijou_no_seiza
04-23-2007, 07:27 PM
Hmm, if I could get to my storage (that'd be mom's barn in New York) I'd send you my old Brita.

But! You're in luck. New Wave Environmental makes one (http://www.newwaveenviro.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=8_2_12&products_id=87), in a corn resin bottle. :)
(They're a new product, so might be hard to find. But their customer service is excellent, and can probably help you.)

crazy lady at my Earth day booth showed me one of those, :thumbsup: apparently they sell them locally here :D

gur
05-02-2007, 10:18 AM
sigg's having a design contest (http://dcpstudio.com/golduser1/MySIGG/). the winner gets 100 of the printed bottles to share! damn, if i wasn't so lazy.....
also:
A portion of sales of your winning design will be donated to Surfrider Foundation, a not-for-profit organization committed to protecting our oceans and beaches. So besides getting credit for designing the next cool SIGG, you also contribute to taking care of our planet!

lolamako
05-02-2007, 06:05 PM
I finally bought a Klean Kanteen and I love it. I thought that the metal on metal would really bother me, every time I picked one up and screwed the lid on it made this awful "I don't fit!" screeching. But after a few uses it totally goes away.
Before I bought one I was buying Biota (corn resin bottle) and re-using it.

mishka
05-02-2007, 06:52 PM
sigg's having a design contest (http://dcpstudio.com/golduser1/MySIGG/). the winner gets 100 of the printed bottles to share! damn, if i wasn't so lazy.....
also:
coool...

eta: boo... the contest is only open to US residents. But:

Not From The U.S.? No Problem!
Although the SIGGART Design Contest is only open to U.S. residents, we've gotten so many great designs from around the world that we don't want you to be left out. The non-U.S. designs receiving the most votes will be shared with SIGG Switzerland, the parent company of MySIGG.com. So please submit your designs - you still have a chance to see your style on a SIGG.

vegankitty
05-02-2007, 09:03 PM
I love my Sigg bottle-but today i failed to screw the lid on properly and it leaked all over my bag , soaking my cellphone(which is only two weeks old and was a replacement for one I lost.)My contract is up in June and then I'll be eligible for a free one , so I don't want to buy another one. : pouty face :

Miso Vegan
05-02-2007, 11:14 PM
serious bummer, vegankitty. I have heard tell of cell phones that have dried out and survived, but that sure wasn't the case with mine. Of course, mine went through the washing machine....

atouria
05-02-2007, 11:30 PM
Try to let it dry out completely before turning it on. If you turned it on while it was still wet, it's fried for sure.

nauthiz
05-03-2007, 08:22 AM
Also get the battery out of that sucker.

Completely will take a few days with a sealed-case product like a cell phone.

vegankitty
05-03-2007, 11:21 PM
Pretty sure its fried.Iy was on when it got wet , and I didn't know it was wet for an hour and I tried to turn it on.Though my neighbor said his worked again after similar circumstances , but it took two weeks.

herbi
05-22-2007, 10:29 PM
Well, it finally happened. :umm: My Sigg got a dent. :(
:bawling:
It was balanced precariously on the top of a pile of stuff inside my bag, and slid off & hit the sidewalk as I was walking home from work just now. I wouldn't even mind the dent so much in itself, but my nice supersmooth shiny pretty green surface is scraped/pitted in that area too. :( :( :(
*sigh* ah, well... "character"...

atouria
05-22-2007, 11:10 PM
:( !!

Emiloid
05-23-2007, 10:26 PM
I'm sorry, herbi, but... :p

bluedawg
05-24-2007, 01:37 AM
poor herbi! i feel your pain. mine are still dent-free, partially becoss i've been terrible about using them regularly (heh) and partially becoss of the fancy sleeve i bought for the little one.

herbi
05-24-2007, 08:01 PM
:)

gladcow
07-12-2007, 05:48 PM
I ordered siggs for the whole family today! wheee! I used my Ideal Bite discount and got approximately $6 off each bottle, woo!

This (https://2687413500.monstercommercesites.com/ProductImages/MYSIGG/8091.70.JPG) one for the girl.

This (https://2687413500.monstercommercesites.com/ProductImages/MYSIGG/8116.80.JPG) one for the boy.

This (http://www.mysigg.com/ProductImages/MYSIGG/8025.70.JPG) one for the husb.

Aaaand this (http://www.mysigg.com/ProductImages/MYSIGG/8024.00.JPG) one for me! :D

atouria
07-12-2007, 06:39 PM
Awesome gladcow! I have to say I about :faintyguy(past tensified): when I saw the adorable ninjas!

bluedawg
07-12-2007, 07:17 PM
I about :faintyguy(past tensified):
:laugh:

very nice choices, gladcow! i like the one you chose for husb.

mishka
07-12-2007, 07:27 PM
I love Simon's!!

gladcow
07-31-2007, 12:55 PM
still have not recieved my Siggs :brood:
sent an email Friday, with no response :brood:
called today, left a voicemail (no one was available) :brood:

I am about to get seriously pissed off :furious:

Miso Vegan
07-31-2007, 01:23 PM
:worried:

does the site say anything about shipping times?

gladcow
07-31-2007, 01:38 PM
I ordered from mysigg.com and it says three to seven business days. It has been 13 business days :brood:

bird
07-31-2007, 04:03 PM
i should have warned you, but i didn't see your posts b/c i wasn't on vrf then. mysigg.com is a terrible website. they said they never got my return and i had to argue with them to get my credit back. then they said they had processed my credit but they never did (it didn't show up on my credit card). i had to call them and argue all over again for them to give it to me. they thought i was trying to scam them by asking for two credits without returning the merch, when really they were trying to scam me!

this was after i had problems ordering in the first place because their site was messed up. also they have an attitude and give you sh*t when you say you want to return something. AND they don't have any customer service reps to speak of! good luck trying to call them. it's like the owner's personal cell phone on the site and he is a total flake. :rolleyes:

gladcow
07-31-2007, 04:08 PM
well, that is just awesome. at least now I know what I'm dealing with. I'll get it sorted and order elsewhere.

stegan
08-02-2007, 08:00 AM
The Bottled Water Lie (http://www.alternet.org/story/43480/)

Here's an update:


Pepsi Agrees to Reveal Sources of Aquafina Bottled Water (http://www.stopcorporateabuse.org/cms/page1559.cfm)
In Response to Think Outside the Bottle Campaign, Agrees to Print ''Public Water Source'' on Labels

Contact:
Deborah Lapidus (617) 695-2525

For Immediate Release:
July 26, 2007

Boston, MA–After being subject to months of intensive campaign activity, Pepsi has agreed to provide consumers with more information about the source of the water used for Aquafina. In direct response to a national day of action yesterday, Pepsi agreed to spell out “Public Water Source” on the Aquafina label.

As part of the Think Outside the Bottle campaign, thousands of people across the US have been urging Pepsi to make changes in the Aquafina label, which includes an image of snow-capped mountains and states “pure water, perfect taste”. Though the image implies that the source of Aquafina is mountain spring water, it actually uses tap water as its source. In fact, up to 40% of bottled water uses tap water as its source.

“Pepsi’s response to the Think Outside the Bottle campaign is an important first step,” says Gigi Kellett, Think Outside the Bottle Campaign Director. “Concerns about the bottled water industry, and increasing corporate control of water, are growing across the country. It is significant that Pepsi is taking some action, especially since Aquafina is the leading bottled water brand in the U.S.”

Pepsi’s decision to change the Aquafina label comes in the midst of growing national attention to the bottled water industry. Last month San Francisco Mayor Gavin Newsom banned city spending on bottled water and the US Conference of Mayors adopted a resolution highlighting the importance of public water systems and the negative impact of bottled water.

The Think Outside the Bottle campaign has reached millions of people over several weeks in dozens of media outlets including the New York Times, National Public Radio, and the Boston Globe. Most people in the world won’t have access to enough water within 20 years, according to the United Nations, and the EPA projects 36 states in the U.S. will experience water shortages even sooner.

Corporate Accountability International members are concerned that marketing of Aquafina and other brand names leads consumers to choose bottled over tap water. People in the U.S. spent $11 billion on bottled water last year, and Pepsi’s Aquafina generated $1.3 billion in revenues in 2005.

Students, faith leaders and community activists have joined the Think Outside the Bottle campaign to challenge bottled water corporations and galvanize support for public water systems. In addition to revealing the sites and sources of water used for bottling, the Think Outside the Bottle campaign calls on Pepsi, Coke and Nestlé to publicly report breaches in water quality, comparable to reports by public water systems, and to stop threatening local control of water when siting and operating bottling plants.

Emiloid
08-02-2007, 10:33 AM
Talk of the Nation (NPR) had a show recently about bottled water. The mayor of Salt Lake City was on, talking about his proposed ban of bottled water, at least by city officials. I thought it was a great show, except that people kept talking about Nalgene bottles as if "Nalgene" were a generic word for reusable water bottles. I left a comment on their blog mentioning that Sigg bottles and Kleen Kanteens (and even empty glass jars) are also great options, and that Nalgene is connected to animal research... but so far they haven't posted it.

Anyway, filter your water if necessary, and carry a reusable bottle! Down with bottled water! Except very rarely, if absolutely necessary! :p

downwithapathy
08-03-2007, 01:55 PM
Talk of the Nation (NPR) had a show recently about bottled water. The mayor of Salt Lake City was on, talking about his proposed ban of bottled water, at least by city officials. I thought it was a great show, except that people kept talking about Nalgene bottles as if "Nalgene" were a generic word for reusable water bottles. I left a comment on their blog mentioning that Sigg bottles and Kleen Kanteens (and even empty glass jars) are also great options, and that Nalgene is connected to animal research... but so far they haven't posted it.

Anyway, filter your water if necessary, and carry a reusable bottle! Down with bottled water! Except very rarely, if absolutely necessary! :p
http://www.satyamag.com/apr07/moore.html In the print version, this article comes with a pretty scary photograph of dead birds whose stomachs are filled with plastic bottle caps. I hate one-use plastic bottles so much right now. :( I think I'm about to send reusable bottles I found in the basement to friends. Awesome.

Emiloid
08-03-2007, 02:25 PM
^ That is awesome! What a find. :)

Interesting article, too.

downwithapathy
08-06-2007, 01:00 AM
There are so many places I could post this. :) I recently found 6 reusable water bottles in my basement (definitely homeless--not attached to folks in my house). I've also read several articles (AR conference gave me lots of magazines) that are makin' me all "seriously, reuse bottles!" even more than I was before. I plan to make a livejournal entry soon and offer all my extras to friends for free (in exchange for a promise that they'll genuinely try to use these in place of pre-bottled water). I have 2 particular friends in mind. That means an excess of bottles. I know we're all super-cool here and already have bottles... but just in case, I might be offering some of these to VRFers in need, or who otherwise might not try the reusable bottle thing.

Here's what I found in my basement. All have been thoroughly cleaned and run through the co-op's sanitizer.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v84/vegansonja/Bottles/bottles010.jpg
from left to right:
1. Big ol' 1000 ml (which means it can hold a little more than that--that marking has always bugged me :p) bottle. Whatever markings once graced the bottle have rubbed off (the bottom and lid both tell me it's Nalgene). This bottle has clearly been well-loved, but it's still in good working order. It'd be good for a bottle abuser or someone who likes stickers. :):):)
2. Another big ol' 1000 ml Nalgene bottle. It has some minor scratches and the like but less loved than #1. :)
3 and 4. Twins! Perfect BFF bottles! Nalgene 500 ml bottles. Both are in pretty decent condition, but a fair bit of 4's markings have rubbed off.
5. Westlaw. Something about legal research. Hm. Anyway, it's a 700 ml Nalgene-like bottle.
6. Eddie Bauer lined aluminum bottle. 1 small dent, but in pretty good condition. I grabbed a 1 cup measuring cup and managed to fill this bottle with almost 2.5 cups. I'm just telling you this to point out my thoroughness.

All 6 bottles have passed my leak-proof testing. If any will leak, I'm guessing it would be the Eddie Bauer... but it's a decent enough bottle. I don't want to diss it. :)

Now. Here are my Siggs.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v84/vegansonja/Bottles/bottles005.jpg
1. My workplace doesn't allow use of bottles that require one to remove the tops for drinking. They provided us with cheap, plastic bottles... but mine seems to be growing something. I'll still use it when I forget my Sigg... but anyway, here's my newer Sigg.
2. Bird gave me this Sigg, and people compliment it everywhere I go (even with that gnarly dent (it has a few). The only thing is... I seem to be using the larger Sigg exclusively. Should I give away the beautiful original. OMG, dilemma. I've had thoughts of keeping it for situations in which the lid style would be ideal. Thing is, those situations aren't presenting themselves. Hmmm.

This is spacehippy's bottle. 500 ml. #7 plastic like all the rest. He doesn't use it like he should. :p Should he switch out? Opinions? Damn, I rule.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v84/vegansonja/Bottles/bottles027.jpg

Full lineup: :heart:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v84/vegansonja/Bottles/bottles034.jpg

There are also 2 of the cheap, event logo, leaky sports bottles... but those don't seem worth offering. :)

BIRD (if you're reading), I think you have the same larger Sigg as me. How is it holding up, dent-wise?

bird
08-06-2007, 01:15 AM
yup, i have the same larger sigg as you. same color, too, heh. i dropped it one on my way out the door and the translucent white domed part of the cap snapped off at the hinge. i tried to buy a replacement cap, but they were nowhere to be found. one website told me sigg had some kind of hangup with producing them at the manufacturing level. that meant that the only way to get a replacement cap was to buy a whole new bottle, and i wasn't about to do that. the rest of the bottle was still fine, but i didn't like the idea of the spout where i put my mouth being exposed and getting grody.

then i had the brilliant idea of making this bottle my gym bottle, since i got thirsty on the elliptical machine and i didn't want to take a bottle on there that would take two hands to operate. with this sigg i could just grab it with one hand and press down with my teeth - hey presto, water! it was great. for the few months that i went to the gym all the time, anyway. :rolleyes:

but then for various health reasons i had to stop my regular workout routine involving weights and cardio. that meant i only went to the y for swimming, a workout that didn't require bottled water. so ever since then i've never used the bottle. they may be selling the tops again now; i haven't specifically checked. but i don't think so.

i also have this exact bottle in black. i bought that to put in my bike cage since my bike is black and i wanted an all-black bottle (no gnarly designs like regular bike bottles have). but i stopped riding because my bike and i don't get along (i'm going to sell it when i get the chance) so now i don't use that bottle, either.

i obviously need to get some bottle re-homing underway myself! i have many more that i don't use (some siggs, some not) because i buy them like lip balm. :blush: i always buy one in good faith, believing it's the best and therefore the last one i will ever need to buy, and of course it never is. help meee!

slackar
08-06-2007, 01:26 AM
The water bottle I've used for the past 4 months died today.

I stepped on it while it was empty, and cracked it open.

I don't know if things will ever be the same for me...

Dugan
08-06-2007, 07:57 AM
My water bottle dilemma is the same as always - why can't I find lightweight bottle with a mouth large enough to fit my hand in for a thorough washing?

Miso Vegan
08-06-2007, 11:43 AM
My incredibly important opinion:
spacehippy should switch to the eddie bauer sigg, with the capp from your pretty sigg. you should buy a new cap, keeping your pretty sigg as a backup (what if you lost your larger sigg?! :o ).
You are funny and sweet.

Emiloid
08-06-2007, 02:41 PM
My bottles are holding up really well. I have one BIG Kleen Kanteen (from bird--imagine that!) that I use most of the time, and an old blue plastic one that's my backup/smaller bottle.

BTW, I use a bottle brush to clean the insides, and a sponge on their rims and caps.

Sonja, I really like your project of giving them away. It's a really practical form of activism.

gladcow
08-06-2007, 02:50 PM
I finally got an email back from MySigg. :rolleyes:
The girl's bottle is out of stock, so I agreed to a replacement only if the entire order is shipped out this week :rolleyes:

NEVER ORDER FROM MYSIGG.COM

bird
08-06-2007, 04:25 PM
NEVER ORDER FROM MYSIGG.COMword.

you real friendly with mr. malagisi now? :rolleyes:

gladcow
08-06-2007, 04:27 PM
word.

you real friendly with mr. malagisi now? :rolleyes:
gah. of course I am! :rolleyes: he's giving me a free bottle (of HIS choice) for my trouble :rolleyes:
I'm waiting to actually get my bottles before I believe any of this shizz :rolleyes:

bird
08-06-2007, 04:29 PM
he's the biggest dolt evar.

Dugan
08-06-2007, 04:31 PM
I use a bottle brush to clean the insides, and a sponge on their rims and caps.

Yah, I have a bottle brush - but I'm usually too lazy to go get it because it's stored in the gear room with the homebrew equipment. Those 50 steps would be a killer...

Jessica
08-06-2007, 04:32 PM
Explain pls.

ETA: the Mr.. uh.. miyagi thing. ( :laugh: )

gladcow
08-06-2007, 05:00 PM
Explain pls.

ETA: the Mr.. uh.. miyagi thing. ( :laugh: )
Mr Malagisi is the owner of the (super lame not customer oriented) website where I ordered my siggs. www.mysigg.com bird and I have had horrible service from him.

bird
08-06-2007, 05:33 PM
what really irks me is how faux-cheerful/friendly he is. like that act's going to make me less pissed off at him. DOLT, i tell you.

bluedawg
08-06-2007, 06:22 PM
3 and 4. Twins! Perfect BFF bottles!
:laugh: you're so cute.

the other day i went to a picnic potluck (vegan meetup) and we were supposed to bring our own beverages. between making cupcakes, getting ready, and doing god knows what else that morning, i was running a little late. h-dawg threw a lawn chair in the car for me, and i rushed out. i was about 3 minutes away from home when i realized i'd left my beautiful tall green sigg on the kitchen counter. :cry: i was so excited to take it on a field trip! but i was running late, so i just kept going.

once i got there the hostess let me drink some of her water :laugh: so at least i didn't go thirsty. but when i saw another person's klean kanteen i felt a little pang of guilt for drinking bottled water when i really had a sigg at home.

downwithapathy
08-09-2007, 01:09 AM
Nobody wants my ugly bottles. I'm so bad at being human.

Miso Vegan
08-09-2007, 10:17 AM
Nah, Sonja, you just need better friends. :p

stegan
08-09-2007, 10:48 AM
Nobody wants my ugly bottles. I'm so bad at being human.
Did you try freecycle (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/madisonfreecycle/)?

Emiloid
08-09-2007, 10:51 AM
Nobody wants my ugly bottles. I'm so bad at being human.

That sucks! I forgot about that... you know, that your friends would have to be interested in the bottles for the plan to work. It kind of complicates things. :umm:

I think you should still distribute the bottles, even if it's to strangers. Just the fact that someone would want one is probably a good indication that they'd use it and cut back on their use of disposable water bottles. However, you could also give them a pamphlet with the bottle if you want to increase their chances of using it consistently, and of understanding the whole picture of why disposables are so bad.

The bottles are pretty cool, and I'm sure a lot of people in your area would be happy to have one. Even if your friends aren't into the idea, you can't lose by distributing the bottles to people who want them.

Maybe you could try Craig's List or Freecycle?

MissLovely
08-09-2007, 11:36 AM
Nobody wants my ugly bottles. I'm so bad at being human.
:(
You do not!

downwithapathy
08-09-2007, 01:19 PM
Yeah. Freecycle's always been on my list. I just thought I'd get a couple out of the way before that stage. I'm just becoming more and more offended by my closest friends' apathy regarding everything. I wrote up a cute freakin' email and everything. :p I got a reply back from the main friend I had in mind, but she said nothing about the bottles at all. It was something like "you never cease to amaze me, blahblah not about bottles. I love you girl--name" I was all, uh... bottles? :)

I guess I was thinking, if I didn't have bottles...like, say.... me a year ago, I'd have not hesitated to say something like "yeah! one of the little purplish ones". I'm just weird. It's like how I get annoyed when spacehippy tries to put his shampoo bottle in the recycling before letting me do the water trick to use the last of the shampoo. :p The other friend I've been crossing my fingers for (my ex-roommate) hasn't replied at all yet. I know the bottles aren't exactly shining examples of bottley beauty, but... they're free and okay. Maybe I shouldn't have mentioned that I found them in my basement. :p

atouria
09-09-2007, 05:37 PM
I wish Sigg bottles had the sippy cup compo like Klean Kanteen. It's time to get one for the baby boy! :D

Miso Vegan
09-09-2007, 07:03 PM
Like what?

Emiloid
09-09-2007, 10:58 PM
I just read an article in Mother Jones that described the dangers of plastics pretty succinctly. And... it made me wary of using my cheapo (free/found) plastic reusable bottle (#7 plastic). Luckily I have a Kleen Kanteen, but I kind of liked having use of two bottles. *sigh*

bird
09-10-2007, 02:06 AM
i'm so frustrated. i'm tired of things being alarmist and not really knowing if i HAVE to be worried about something or not. they are just rat studies! how do we really know it's danngerous? am i supposed to live my whole life worrying about everything just because it could be bad, and why not err on the side of caution? when does it end?

i've tried and tried. i bought kleen kanteens. i hated the metal taste. i've bought siggs. the denting annoyed the f*ck out of me because they wouldn't stay level anymore when i set them down. i never drank enough because i couldn't see the inside of the bottle. i use the remainder as a visual cue for how much i've drunk. if i can't see the water level, i forget to drink. this is basic human psychology. remember the bottomless soup bowl experiment? it happens with a glass of water on the dining table at home, too. i've learned i can't actually wait until i drink the whole glass to refill, or i will drink less. my mind unconsciously goes into "conservation mode" when there's only an inch or so left of water at the bottom, and i stop drinking because i feel like i need to save it, or that it would be somehow rude/gauche/greedy to drink it all. but if i replenish the glass when it's only halfway down, i'll drink a lot more throughout the night. this was all a very unconscious practice until i sat down and really analyzed why sometimes i got dehydrated and other times i drank too much.

my point is, i always go back to the plastic bottles. it means i drink more now, and is that better or worse then not drinking enough water, if it means what i'm drinking is toxic? it is incredibly frustrating! can someone prove to me that "if you drink a, you will get medical problems b, c and d?" because i KNOW the adverse effects of dehydration. so i keep on drinking from the plastic and i have to deal with this thread getting bumped and stressing me out all the time.

i'd get a glass bottle but i can't find one, and with the way i drop/dent/break stuff, i think i'd be too paranoid to carry one.

bird
09-10-2007, 02:09 AM
i really feel about this stuff the same way i feel about cell phones. have they proved that we're going to all get brain cancer or some sh*t? because in the meantime it is really nice to be able to use my phone. and look at how many people use cell phones. and drink from plastic bottles. if this was really going to kill us, or f*ck us up badly, i'm sure there would be a societal fix put in place, because practically everyone would be affected.

it just seems like it's too big for me to worry about!

bird
09-10-2007, 02:14 AM
my brita pitcher, through which 99.9% of the water i drink passes, is also plastic. so even if i gave up the nalgene, there's still that.

what is the point? we say all the time that you should minimize the harm if possible but it just seems like it'd be such a negligible difference. there isn't anything anyone has shown me that says declaratively that doing A for X amount of time causes B by age Y in humans.

Miso Vegan
09-10-2007, 02:23 AM
We just do what we can, bird, with what information we have right now. The world is too complex to know everything, so we just do what we can.