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Greenconsciousness
12-13-2008, 04:12 PM
Always close to animals but a big meat eater -- all I knew growing up.

I come from working class violence and from there into feminism and the anti-violence movement.

It was a cat who helped me make the choice to reject becoming an abuser when I was a child. I was acting out my rage at being abused by throwing her down on the bed and she looked at my soul and my soul recognized her. I snapped out of it into a new awareness. I rejected any use of animals to release my inner tension and rage. I was about 8 or 10. I believe every individual who is not too damaged has that moment of choice. Only the severely tortured have no choice. I only remember the house, the bedroom, the cat. Subsequently, my mother gave her away to bad people. I knew she would be hurt, I cried but it was useless. That was my childhood. I was helpless in a cruel world being taught passivity which has crippled me all life long.

When I was into feminism for maybe three four years, living in hippieville, down in the third ward near the Tannery, Lyon St in Milwaukee when times were good there, the early 1970s; I had a dream one night.
It was all black -- saw something between 2 horizontal boards. I was far away and kept coming closer and then I saw it was two brown eyes. The most beautiful, compassionate, loving eyes that ever could exist anywhere, I was drenched with love so complete.
Then I saw it was the eyes of a cow,
in a truck,
on her way to slaughter,
and as soon as that insight hit me, everything went black.
Quickly a silver fish slithered through the blackness horizontally shooting off silver flickers.

And I woke up.

And I never ate meat or fish again after that dream. Boom, I was over it.

It took another year to stop eating birds. Then I found good tasting nutritional yeast and it helped me get off the taste of crust.

It took a long time to learn about protein and that I needed it everyday or I would eat junk. Praise tofu and the Bountiful Bean. I posted about that on another person's thread so won't go into it here.

Greenconsciousness
12-13-2008, 04:18 PM
It took so many, many years to become a vegan - learning dairy was addictive -- morphine in the cows stomach and the dairy producers know it -- you have to go cold turkey and realize you have an addiction -- now I eat tofu and almonds but children should be raised carefully -- dairy producers are just like the cigarette manufacturers used to be. Except they torture animals to make their toxic product. But they spread their lying propaganda the same way.

bumblebee
12-13-2008, 04:25 PM
Welcome :)

I once had a dream that helped me give up sea food. I dreamed my family was boiling baby bunnies instead of crabs. :umm:

VegeTexan
12-13-2008, 05:16 PM
Welcome to VR, GreenC. Good to have you with us.

sitting_vegan
12-14-2008, 08:06 PM
Welcome! :daisy:

topperarnold
12-14-2008, 08:12 PM
Welcome!

phloxy
12-15-2008, 08:47 AM
Glad you've come to the forums!

Greenconsciousness
12-15-2008, 11:04 AM
Please to see websites listed:
http://www.greenconsciousness.org/weblog/
and
http://www.greenconsciousness.org/ (home)

Will listen to the radio and link to it

Harm None!

Provoked
12-16-2008, 01:58 AM
Welcome Greenconsciousness!
It was a cow that connected everything for me too... :)

robbie707
12-22-2008, 02:57 PM
Hey Green Consciousness

I too understand taking an anti-violence position early on... same same working class violent background. Father once got us (four young impressionable boys) to hold the chain of our pet dog while he proceeded to blow its head off ...it was then our job to dig the hole and bury it ....way cruel!!

Violence and suffering in any form is implorable... love is the 'new black' wear it with pride :)

Robbie

Jessica?
12-22-2008, 03:09 PM
welcome :)

Ahimsa!

Greenconsciousness
12-27-2008, 02:17 PM
Robbie

I Understand -- and we carry it our whole lives long -- I also work to end child abuse where I can - it is so interconnected. Fools say why don't you work for people? And I know that when we end animal abuse we ARE working for people.

Thank you all for your kind welcomes.

squirrel
12-27-2008, 02:27 PM
Hey Green Consciousness

I too understand taking an anti-violence position early on... same same working class violent background. Father once got us (four young impressionable boys) to hold the chain of our pet dog while he proceeded to blow its head off ...it was then our job to dig the hole and bury it ....way cruel!!

Violence and suffering in any form is implorable... love is the 'new black' wear it with pride :)

Robbie
Oh my gosh Robbie I'm sorry to hear that...I can relate to similar (though not that horrible) with my step father. Some people really anger me. :mad:
Welcome, Greenconciousness....by the way. :)

Greenconsciousness
12-27-2008, 02:40 PM
Here are two videos that I like. One is "Cries Britches" about the ALF's work. Britches is one of the baby monkeys they tortured for
porn science. The other is a "Buddist Prayer for Animals".

cries britches
http://www.greenconsciousness.org/we...0-youtube.html

Prayer for Animals
http://www.greenconsciousness.org/we...my-prayer.html

Greenconsciousness
12-27-2008, 02:52 PM
Provoked

I draw cows - their lives haunt me as do the lives of most animals.

On a better note I am watching Whale Wars on Animal Planet. Their leader Paul Watson was kicked out of Greenpeace for being "too confrontational". I love him and everything he does. Whale Wars is the most excellent show on what you have to be and do to make real change. How you must discipline yourself - the mistakes... There is sooo much we can learn from this show -- questions to ask our hearts. I am so glad Animal planet is showing it.

I like their theme song too. "The world is a Vampire" boom boom!

robbie707
12-29-2008, 06:56 PM
Thanks to Greenconsciousness & sgain for your kind words and support :)
Yes a unique world full of interesting people... not all good people, but not all bad either!
I thought it was important to share a small part of my story (re animal abuse, & yes as linked to family abuse) to highlight the importance of its impact on ones life journey and choices we can make, to improve our lives and better the world as a whole.

Stay passionate, loving an strong ... vegans rule ...lol

Gloria
01-04-2009, 08:48 PM
Smashing pumpkins, must be a good show then!

Provoked
01-08-2009, 09:05 PM
I draw cows - their lives haunt me as do the lives of most animals.


Yes... I think this is what it is to "witness". Art is a wonderful way to express some of the sadness - about the animals... about the cows. :blank:

ditto Robbie707 - "vegans rule" ! :)